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		<title>By: MyDegreeChoices News Should California Abandon Common Core Standards? &#124; MyDegreeChoices News</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyDegreeChoices News Should California Abandon Common Core Standards? &#124; MyDegreeChoices News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 05:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will compete for the anti-union vote, as evidence by the Democratic Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa’s defection from his old union brethren. Villaraigosa, who Lasken claims is seeking a cabinet post in the next [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hello again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hello again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 19:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stumbled across this article...interesting reading.  

What is the root of the education problem?  Well, it&#039;s not unions, it&#039;s not teachers, it&#039;s not even those big bad administrators who (wink wink) are just there for the coffee and a big fat paycheck that they didn&#039;t earn.  

It&#039;s about expectations.  We as a nation have decided that EVERY child will receive an education...and not just an education up to 3rd grade, or 5th grade, or even middle school...EVERY child will receive a high school education!  Now, add illegal immigrants to the mix.  Students that have special mental, emotional and/or physical needs.  Homeless students.  Students who are severe behavior problems.  Our schools are REQUIRED to educate them all to the 12th grade level, and this can take an increasingly large amount of resources and funding to accomplish.

We have the NAEP, the TIMSS, and other tests that measure our students against the rest of the world&#039;s kids.  Here&#039;s a better idea:  let&#039;s test our kids with severe special needs, kids with significant physical or situational impairments, with other countries&#039; kids.  

If you can even FIND those children in the other countries to take that test, I guarantee you U.S. children would be first on those tests by a landslide.  We take the tired, the poor, the weak and the downtrodden, and we educate them ALL.  

Our best and brightest do just as well as other countries&#039; kids.  Our most significantly cognitively and physically challenged kids would do as well or better than any other country.  The key is the &quot;average&quot; kid - who is the average kid?  For us, it&#039;s everybody.  For many other countries, the &quot;average&quot; has ruthlessly pared the tired, the weak, the physically unable to perform away from the group.

Do your research.  Take a look at what is expected of a typical public high school.  Better yet, sit with a principal for a week - heck, sit with a central office person in many situations - and you&#039;ll see the Sisyphean tasks ahead of them.  And by the way?  Yes, I was educated in a public school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stumbled across this article&#8230;interesting reading.  </p>
<p>What is the root of the education problem?  Well, it&#8217;s not unions, it&#8217;s not teachers, it&#8217;s not even those big bad administrators who (wink wink) are just there for the coffee and a big fat paycheck that they didn&#8217;t earn.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s about expectations.  We as a nation have decided that EVERY child will receive an education&#8230;and not just an education up to 3rd grade, or 5th grade, or even middle school&#8230;EVERY child will receive a high school education!  Now, add illegal immigrants to the mix.  Students that have special mental, emotional and/or physical needs.  Homeless students.  Students who are severe behavior problems.  Our schools are REQUIRED to educate them all to the 12th grade level, and this can take an increasingly large amount of resources and funding to accomplish.</p>
<p>We have the NAEP, the TIMSS, and other tests that measure our students against the rest of the world&#8217;s kids.  Here&#8217;s a better idea:  let&#8217;s test our kids with severe special needs, kids with significant physical or situational impairments, with other countries&#8217; kids.  </p>
<p>If you can even FIND those children in the other countries to take that test, I guarantee you U.S. children would be first on those tests by a landslide.  We take the tired, the poor, the weak and the downtrodden, and we educate them ALL.  </p>
<p>Our best and brightest do just as well as other countries&#8217; kids.  Our most significantly cognitively and physically challenged kids would do as well or better than any other country.  The key is the &#8220;average&#8221; kid &#8211; who is the average kid?  For us, it&#8217;s everybody.  For many other countries, the &#8220;average&#8221; has ruthlessly pared the tired, the weak, the physically unable to perform away from the group.</p>
<p>Do your research.  Take a look at what is expected of a typical public high school.  Better yet, sit with a principal for a week &#8211; heck, sit with a central office person in many situations &#8211; and you&#8217;ll see the Sisyphean tasks ahead of them.  And by the way?  Yes, I was educated in a public school.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/la-mayor-calls-teachers-unions-roadblocks/#comment-7989</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This teacher reform is the biggest cluster_ _ _ _ in history!  You have all these people just making up B.S. reform.  Of course all of the people know nothing about education.  Arne Duncan was a basketball player who can&#039;t even speak correctly.  Bill Gates?  What does he know?  Nothing!  But in America money equal powers and this will just quicken the decline.  We deserve to go down now.  Do you think a rich man could do this in Germany or a real country?  No way!  In &quot;intelligent&quot; countries they let experts in education like Diane Ravitch design school reform, but not here.  In America they just let rich guys try anything they want.  Once we lose the public schools, it will be game over, and I suspect that is where we are right now.  Sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This teacher reform is the biggest cluster_ _ _ _ in history!  You have all these people just making up B.S. reform.  Of course all of the people know nothing about education.  Arne Duncan was a basketball player who can&#8217;t even speak correctly.  Bill Gates?  What does he know?  Nothing!  But in America money equal powers and this will just quicken the decline.  We deserve to go down now.  Do you think a rich man could do this in Germany or a real country?  No way!  In &#8220;intelligent&#8221; countries they let experts in education like Diane Ravitch design school reform, but not here.  In America they just let rich guys try anything they want.  Once we lose the public schools, it will be game over, and I suspect that is where we are right now.  Sad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy is not very educated.  Our best suburban schools score just as well as Finland.  Our inner city and rural schools score low and it pulls the whole average down.  Instead of creating smaller class sizes in the inner cities, we are making the classes bigger and then firing teachers when they can&#039;t meet test scores.  Like teachers are superheroes who can control everything.  In the rest of the world, students are evaluated on their test scores but now here.  Oh no!  America is just going its own way- straight down!  Who the hell would want to teach now.  Let&#039;s see how those test scores go in a few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy is not very educated.  Our best suburban schools score just as well as Finland.  Our inner city and rural schools score low and it pulls the whole average down.  Instead of creating smaller class sizes in the inner cities, we are making the classes bigger and then firing teachers when they can&#8217;t meet test scores.  Like teachers are superheroes who can control everything.  In the rest of the world, students are evaluated on their test scores but now here.  Oh no!  America is just going its own way- straight down!  Who the hell would want to teach now.  Let&#8217;s see how those test scores go in a few years.</p>
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		<title>By: tired teacher</title>
		<link>http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/la-mayor-calls-teachers-unions-roadblocks/#comment-7965</link>
		<dc:creator>tired teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are the most dangerous type of person in this country

the type with an &quot;opinion&quot;  that you spout as fact.  you know nothing about the realities of how to educate a child, yet spout off things that make no sense as &quot;common knowledge&quot;

and when people ask you to provide research based facts (the only kind we can rely on)  you spout off more garbage.

Dangerous because people who think like you are already tearing down education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are the most dangerous type of person in this country</p>
<p>the type with an &#8220;opinion&#8221;  that you spout as fact.  you know nothing about the realities of how to educate a child, yet spout off things that make no sense as &#8220;common knowledge&#8221;</p>
<p>and when people ask you to provide research based facts (the only kind we can rely on)  you spout off more garbage.</p>
<p>Dangerous because people who think like you are already tearing down education.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/la-mayor-calls-teachers-unions-roadblocks/#comment-7885</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, you are so far off its hard to even discuss this.  Once again, &quot;common knowledge we are not educated and do rate the lowest in scores&quot;  hardly common since its false.  Lower than Mongolia?  Lower than Bolivia?  Lower than who?  According to you lowest in the world.  There is not one study that shows this, so your common knowledge is a flat out lie or exaggeration.  Either way not a good way to influence policy.  What should be common knowledge and isn&#039;t is that charter schools may turn away students for reasons public schools cannot.  Are you suggesting we don&#039;t educate every child?  If you look on this very website an article states that Texas has identified 5% of their schools as failing.  If we assume that even in the rest of the country the rate is double that is 10%.  That means we are not failing in 90% of our schools.  Can we do better?  Yes.  Is it as dire as you say?  Hardly.  And your call for action, when we can&#039;t even determine what action works is dangerous.  If it was as dismal as you portray doing anything may be better.  But with 90+% of our schools not failing, doing anything just for the sake of doing something could just lead us to where your stories are actually true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, you are so far off its hard to even discuss this.  Once again, &#8220;common knowledge we are not educated and do rate the lowest in scores&#8221;  hardly common since its false.  Lower than Mongolia?  Lower than Bolivia?  Lower than who?  According to you lowest in the world.  There is not one study that shows this, so your common knowledge is a flat out lie or exaggeration.  Either way not a good way to influence policy.  What should be common knowledge and isn&#8217;t is that charter schools may turn away students for reasons public schools cannot.  Are you suggesting we don&#8217;t educate every child?  If you look on this very website an article states that Texas has identified 5% of their schools as failing.  If we assume that even in the rest of the country the rate is double that is 10%.  That means we are not failing in 90% of our schools.  Can we do better?  Yes.  Is it as dire as you say?  Hardly.  And your call for action, when we can&#8217;t even determine what action works is dangerous.  If it was as dismal as you portray doing anything may be better.  But with 90+% of our schools not failing, doing anything just for the sake of doing something could just lead us to where your stories are actually true.</p>
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		<title>By: kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its great that the kids are first before paychecks! Get a clue the arm is cut off and bleeding it doesn’t need any more Band-Aids. Something needs to change now!  I think its great that there are so many opinions but we need to try something now. We need to step out of the box or comfort zone and do something! Why can’t we focus on the charters schools?   I think the education system has drained enough time and money for over 40 years. Nothing has changed the teachers conduction has not improved; children have not improved so why not? Lets try to go back to basics of reading, writing and math. I did not know I needed to bring graphs, charts and static’s, when it is common knowledge we are not educated and do rate the lowest in scores. I am a parent and I have been helping in the classroom and listening to the teachers (front line workers) for six years. I have made the choice to care. I have given five days a week 4-5 hours a day. I have worked in the office, classroom, and aids office and yes maintenance areas to help in my area. I have a voice and I will make it heard.  Kids are first with me.  It is time to stop debating and we need action! We can all agree that kids need to be educated, teachers need to have control of the classroom and teach, but there is no plan, no direction and I believe if we take a chance and make more charter schools we can start something new. We cannot keep throwing money at the same problem and hope for a solution. We can see its not working!  I agree with your statement “but the working conditions of the teachers, are the learning conditions of your students. “ That’s why we do need change in a different direction, Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its great that the kids are first before paychecks! Get a clue the arm is cut off and bleeding it doesn’t need any more Band-Aids. Something needs to change now!  I think its great that there are so many opinions but we need to try something now. We need to step out of the box or comfort zone and do something! Why can’t we focus on the charters schools?   I think the education system has drained enough time and money for over 40 years. Nothing has changed the teachers conduction has not improved; children have not improved so why not? Lets try to go back to basics of reading, writing and math. I did not know I needed to bring graphs, charts and static’s, when it is common knowledge we are not educated and do rate the lowest in scores. I am a parent and I have been helping in the classroom and listening to the teachers (front line workers) for six years. I have made the choice to care. I have given five days a week 4-5 hours a day. I have worked in the office, classroom, and aids office and yes maintenance areas to help in my area. I have a voice and I will make it heard.  Kids are first with me.  It is time to stop debating and we need action! We can all agree that kids need to be educated, teachers need to have control of the classroom and teach, but there is no plan, no direction and I believe if we take a chance and make more charter schools we can start something new. We cannot keep throwing money at the same problem and hope for a solution. We can see its not working!  I agree with your statement “but the working conditions of the teachers, are the learning conditions of your students. “ That’s why we do need change in a different direction, Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: tired teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>tired teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 14:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are wrong on so many levels.  our test scores are not the lowers in the world by far.  

Charter Schools are not an answer, they are an escape valve for parents who are afraid of the bad kids that stratifies society.

your entire post is basically a rant against the value of education, since all we need are jobs and business and entrepreneurship.

be sick at this topic all you want, but the working conditions of the teachers, are the learning conditions of your students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are wrong on so many levels.  our test scores are not the lowers in the world by far.  </p>
<p>Charter Schools are not an answer, they are an escape valve for parents who are afraid of the bad kids that stratifies society.</p>
<p>your entire post is basically a rant against the value of education, since all we need are jobs and business and entrepreneurship.</p>
<p>be sick at this topic all you want, but the working conditions of the teachers, are the learning conditions of your students.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/la-mayor-calls-teachers-unions-roadblocks/#comment-7799</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please share the source of our lowest ranking in the world.  Your first statements make it hard to read the rest of your dirvel.  Even if there is something of any significance in there your first far fetched statement taints it all.  The fact is: from the Brookings institute, when any statistical insignificance is removed we rank in a group of countries tied for 5th.  the difference in our numerical rank (any where from 17 to 23) and number 1 is like the difference between an A student with a 100% and an A student with a 93%.  Statistical ranking means very little.  Overall achievement means much more.  Charter schools are a great idea.  You do know they don&#039;t have to educate every student correct.  So those that value education will get a great education those that don&#039;t will now have no place to go under you plan of getting rid of the evil public schools.  I think you have fixed the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please share the source of our lowest ranking in the world.  Your first statements make it hard to read the rest of your dirvel.  Even if there is something of any significance in there your first far fetched statement taints it all.  The fact is: from the Brookings institute, when any statistical insignificance is removed we rank in a group of countries tied for 5th.  the difference in our numerical rank (any where from 17 to 23) and number 1 is like the difference between an A student with a 100% and an A student with a 93%.  Statistical ranking means very little.  Overall achievement means much more.  Charter schools are a great idea.  You do know they don&#8217;t have to educate every student correct.  So those that value education will get a great education those that don&#8217;t will now have no place to go under you plan of getting rid of the evil public schools.  I think you have fixed the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome, Kathy! 

I like your enthusiasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome, Kathy! </p>
<p>I like your enthusiasm.</p>
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