Comments on: Julia Steiny: Parent Trigger Laws Add New Weapon in Education Reform Wars http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/julia-steiny-parent-trigger-laws-add-new-weapon-in-education-reform-wars/ Education News Thu, 23 May 2013 21:01:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Julia Steiny http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/julia-steiny-parent-trigger-laws-add-new-weapon-in-education-reform-wars/#comment-14989 Julia Steiny Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:27:22 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=218613#comment-14989 Well, blame is entirely the wrong approach in any case. And the extent to which any party feels blamed reduces their potential effectiveness. The culture allows 20 percent of their kids to be raised in poverty. What's up with that. Everyone belongs to the culture, so it is everyone's responsibility to improve the kids' lot. Parents, schools, taxpayer groups, unions, everyone needs to step up. We need to leverage each others' efforts. Well, blame is entirely the wrong approach in any case. And the extent to which any party feels blamed reduces their potential effectiveness. The culture allows 20 percent of their kids to be raised in poverty. What’s up with that. Everyone belongs to the culture, so it is everyone’s responsibility to improve the kids’ lot. Parents, schools, taxpayer groups, unions, everyone needs to step up. We need to leverage each others’ efforts.

]]> By: Mike http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/julia-steiny-parent-trigger-laws-add-new-weapon-in-education-reform-wars/#comment-14422 Mike Fri, 14 Sep 2012 21:14:31 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=218613#comment-14422 Julia, I am not saying this with any animosity so please don't read it that way. its too hard to tell intonation on a blog. But, your point about assigning no blame to the schools, how much blame does go to the schools? What about a teacher/school that produces doctors, lawyers, and engineers from students that work hard and come from spportive families, yet the same teacher also has children failing? How much blame goes to that teacher and school? I guess, in a nut shell what weighs more, the individual/family accountability or the school/teacher when the school/teacher produces some top students? Julia, I am not saying this with any animosity so please don’t read it that way. its too hard to tell intonation on a blog. But, your point about assigning no blame to the schools, how much blame does go to the schools? What about a teacher/school that produces doctors, lawyers, and engineers from students that work hard and come from spportive families, yet the same teacher also has children failing? How much blame goes to that teacher and school? I guess, in a nut shell what weighs more, the individual/family accountability or the school/teacher when the school/teacher produces some top students?

]]> By: Mike http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/julia-steiny-parent-trigger-laws-add-new-weapon-in-education-reform-wars/#comment-14353 Mike Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:27:47 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=218613#comment-14353 Trigger laws for congress??? Trigger laws for congress???

]]> By: Julia Steiny http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/julia-steiny-parent-trigger-laws-add-new-weapon-in-education-reform-wars/#comment-14296 Julia Steiny Fri, 14 Sep 2012 02:35:06 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=218613#comment-14296 Where did you get that 21% number from? I'd Love to know. I'm not big fan of KIPP. But really? Paul Tough just blamed the under-performance just on the kids? They're part of the problem. Poverty and parents are too. But he assigns no share of the problem to the schools? I dunno. It's a cultural problem. More on that soon. But I'd love to write about KIPP and would love to know where you got that stat. Thanks. Where did you get that 21% number from? I’d Love to know. I’m not big fan of KIPP.

But really? Paul Tough just blamed the under-performance just on the kids? They’re part of the problem. Poverty and parents are too. But he assigns no share of the problem to the schools? I dunno. It’s a cultural problem. More on that soon. But I’d love to write about KIPP and would love to know where you got that stat. Thanks.

]]> By: Parent Trigger Laws Add New Weapon in Education Reform Wars « Standing With the Kids http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/julia-steiny-parent-trigger-laws-add-new-weapon-in-education-reform-wars/#comment-14295 Parent Trigger Laws Add New Weapon in Education Reform Wars « Standing With the Kids Fri, 14 Sep 2012 02:30:09 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=218613#comment-14295 [...] by EducationNews.org – Parents are sick of getting left out of their kids’ educational process.  Sadly, [...] [...] by EducationNews.org – Parents are sick of getting left out of their kids’ educational process.  Sadly, [...]

]]> By: Doug http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/julia-steiny-parent-trigger-laws-add-new-weapon-in-education-reform-wars/#comment-14292 Doug Fri, 14 Sep 2012 01:41:29 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=218613#comment-14292 It won't make a dime's worth of difference. The problem is not in the school or the teachers or the principal or the caretaker. The problems are IN THE CHILDREN due to poverty, single parent families, and so on. Read paul Tough's conclusions. Very few of KIPP's kids finish a degree (21%) even if they get into college. Smell the coffee. It won’t make a dime’s worth of difference. The problem is not in the school or the teachers or the principal or the caretaker.

The problems are IN THE CHILDREN due to poverty, single parent families, and so on. Read paul Tough’s conclusions.

Very few of KIPP’s kids finish a degree (21%) even if they get into college.

Smell the coffee.

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