Comments on: FairTest: Standardized Test Cheating Will Continue http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/fairtest-standardized-test-cheating-will-continue/ Education News Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:01:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tim http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/fairtest-standardized-test-cheating-will-continue/#comment-7351 Tim Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:09:21 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=210456#comment-7351 Does no one else seem to think that teachers and school administrators who allowed teachers to cheat should be immediately fired? This should be a CRIME. What has happened to academics? 20 years ago even, if you were caught cheating on a test, you were subject to expulsion and a big black mark on your scholastic career, and a teacher cheating 20 years ago? I could only imagine what their career would be like after wards. The problem here is not with testing. The problem is with people who are failures and liars who don't believe they have any personal accountability. THEN we have a media and government and union representing these teachers like they are the VICTIMS? Are you kidding me? I'm beyond outraged at this and if I had children (thank god I don't in this f'd up culture and country we're living in today), I would pull my children out of the school system, demand a voucher and/or testing materials and teach my kids myself or find an affordable tutor who I can trust to not cheat my children out of an education. Does no one else seem to think that teachers and school administrators who allowed teachers to cheat should be immediately fired? This should be a CRIME. What has happened to academics? 20 years ago even, if you were caught cheating on a test, you were subject to expulsion and a big black mark on your scholastic career, and a teacher cheating 20 years ago? I could only imagine what their career would be like after wards.

The problem here is not with testing. The problem is with people who are failures and liars who don’t believe they have any personal accountability. THEN we have a media and government and union representing these teachers like they are the VICTIMS? Are you kidding me? I’m beyond outraged at this and if I had children (thank god I don’t in this f’d up culture and country we’re living in today), I would pull my children out of the school system, demand a voucher and/or testing materials and teach my kids myself or find an affordable tutor who I can trust to not cheat my children out of an education.

]]> By: MattW http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/fairtest-standardized-test-cheating-will-continue/#comment-7350 MattW Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:07:47 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=210456#comment-7350 OK how about we evaluate teacher by how they teach? If they are using best practices or do they show leadership in their classrooms? Evaluating teacher ONLY by looking at test scores a) puts emphisis on a flawed evaluation tool b) is unfair. We don't blame roadbuilders for drunken drivers, why should teachers be judged totally on the test that another person takes. OK how about we evaluate teacher by how they teach? If they are using best practices or do they show leadership in their classrooms? Evaluating teacher ONLY by looking at test scores a) puts emphisis on a flawed evaluation tool b) is unfair. We don’t blame roadbuilders for drunken drivers, why should teachers be judged totally on the test that another person takes.

]]> By: Joe http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/fairtest-standardized-test-cheating-will-continue/#comment-7317 Joe Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:53:45 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=210456#comment-7317 If you want to trash the system in place now, show an alternative way that actually works. Don't hide behind YOUR talking points, show the evidence or just give up. If you want to trash the system in place now, show an alternative way that actually works. Don’t hide behind YOUR talking points, show the evidence or just give up.

]]> By: tired teacher http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/fairtest-standardized-test-cheating-will-continue/#comment-7233 tired teacher Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:55:13 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=210456#comment-7233 show me peer reviewed researched data that demonstrates that test scores show whether or not someone is an effective teachers. don't hide behind your talking points or your hyperbole, show the evidence, or just give up. show me peer reviewed researched data that demonstrates that test scores show whether or not someone is an effective teachers.

don’t hide behind your talking points or your hyperbole, show the evidence, or just give up.

]]> By: Linda Brees http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/fairtest-standardized-test-cheating-will-continue/#comment-7212 Linda Brees Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:08:29 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=210456#comment-7212 FairTest is saying that improving the security will just be applying a bandaid on a gaping wound. It will fix the symptom (and maybe even not) but it won't fix the underlying problem which is that the system is completely broken and is useless for evaluating academic outcomes. FairTest is saying that improving the security will just be applying a bandaid on a gaping wound. It will fix the symptom (and maybe even not) but it won’t fix the underlying problem which is that the system is completely broken and is useless for evaluating academic outcomes.

]]> By: Joe http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/fairtest-standardized-test-cheating-will-continue/#comment-7202 Joe Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:29:47 +0000 http://www.educationnews.org/?p=210456#comment-7202 How about we try the increased security first before we scrap the entire system and start fresh. After all, even though some cheat, most don't. And if nothing else, it does help to weed out those who definitely shouldn't be in front of the classroom or running a school (or a district.) How about we try the increased security first before we scrap the entire system and start fresh. After all, even though some cheat, most don’t. And if nothing else, it does help to weed out those who definitely shouldn’t be in front of the classroom or running a school (or a district.)

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